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Barry Trower & Dr. True Ott Breakdown the White House.gov doc. . . . where you will find both Scientist Barrie Trower's and Dr. True Ott's evaluation of theWhiteHouse.gov "Leaked Document" . . 

Excerpt - Scientist Barry Trower:  You’re absolutely correct here, sir, because when I looked at this Economic Growth and will increase profits, you’re actually talking about, I would think that about 100 of 1% of the country will become immensely rich from this new technology, but most of the rest of the population, certainly half of the children exposed will become quite sick, in fact, very sick, and some of them will die, and of course all of that requires medicines, and time off work, and the rest of the population will become poorer whilst you have just these very few, the people in power here, becoming super rich.  





Barry Trower's Recent Interview on Open Your Mind Radio - Ireland

We’d like to introduce Barry Trower.  We’ve had Barry on the show before, and Barry is an independent scientist and an expert witness regarding WIFI technology and microwave warfare.   Now we sent over to Barry a document from Deborah Tavares regarding new technology that the American government is releasing.  So we asked Barry to have a look at this technology and we ourselves didn’t know much about it.  We’re not that advanced with this technology and this is Barry’s background and so we had him take a look at this and get his opinion.

Good evening, Barry.  How are you doing?

Barry:  Good evening, sir.  Thank you for calling me.

OYM:  No problem at all.  Thank you very much for doing this call.  Deborah was on our show a couple of weeks ago and she sent us over the information in this document and she’s concerned about this technology that was on the White House Government website.  And so, we printed out a copy and we sent it over to you to have a look at.  Obviously you have had a chance to look at it.  Can you tell me what you think, what your first impressions are of the information?

Barry:  I’m going to upset a few people by telling the truth here.  It was written by U.S. scientists and the title of the document is To Spur Economic Growth, in fact, they say here, “will increase investment dollars.”  Now I’m going to take you back to 1976 when this level of radiation was known by the United States research scientists to cause up to 4,500 different illnesses in human beings depending on stage of growth and stage of health, and it was also corroborated by the United Nations.  And in 1976, this level of radiation was marked, basically, the documents concerning the ill health from it, were marked TOP SECRET and the United States scientists sent a report out to the rest of the world, mainly western governments at that time.  And to paraphrase their sentence, what it actually says is that governments must lie to the general populations, otherwise they will realize the ill effects caused by this level of radiation and it will have a massive impact on industrial profits and, of course, avoid law suits.  So what they did is they decided to keep everything secret and to lie to the people over the dangers of this level of radiation and, in fact, they are still doing what they set out to do in 1976 when all this was marked  SECRET thereby, by their own writing, it will spur economic growth and increase industrial profit.  So they are still maintaining that this is safe against their own research.  And this entire episode, this entire industry, is to make money on the ill health of the populations.

OYM:  That’s incredible.  That really ties into the whole pharmaceutical side of things where you have to get tablets and, obviously, alternative medicines and various treatments that can be used for cancer, they won’t let people use them, or they make things illegal or they take them off the market because they want to sell drugs.   

Barry:  You’re absolutely correct here, sir, because when I looked at this Economic Growth and will increase profits, you’re actually talking about, I would think that about 100 of 1% of the country will become immensely rich from this new technology, but most of the rest of the population, certainly half of the children exposed will become quite sick, in fact, very sick, and some of them will die, and of course all of that requires medicines, and time off work, and the rest of the population will become poorer  whilst you have just these very few, the people in power here, becoming super rich.  So you’re absolutely correct, sir.

OYM:   Well, the one thing that Deborah has regarding her document, it does say on the document, Is This Technology Safe?And that It’s Meant to Spur Economic Growth, but will it do that?

Barry:  No, sir, it is certainly not safe, and, in fact, I know you’re going to come to it later, but a paper which is free of charge that I’m publishing later this week, if I’m using the best U.S. scientist’s data and the English scientists, and the World Health Organization data, we know that at this particular frequency on these wavelengths they are using that 57.7% of pregnant women will suffer miscarriages, still births, or genetically mutated children.  So, it’s certainly not safe, and these are their figures, not mine.

OYM:  This is certainly very scary information, Barry, especially next generation.  The actual technology affects our genes and that’s passed onto future generations, then we are going to have major issues in the next generation and the generation after that. 

Barry:  Oh, absolutely, sir, absolutely.  And it’s already started showing.  I gave a lecture not too long ago at Brighton University and one of the professors there, he actually said that this phenomena now is already showing itself in other mammalian species.  And again, in Ireland, over there, I presented and referenced my paper to the Irish Doctors Association who are recognized world-wide for being incredibly clever, so this was discussed fully, so it is known, it is recognized, and the technology is not being challenged.  It can’t be challenged because it’s actually there on the scientific peer review documents that the U.S. government and the World Health Organization actually say is going to happen.  What we’re going here is we are making a massive profit for a few people on the backs of suffering of the populations, as you say, in the next three, four generations.

OYM:  That is very scary.  Now obviously we’re going to talk about is WIFI safe?  I mean what Deborah’s document has, but generally we talk about WIFI, and it’s linked to WIFI, is it safe?  I think we can pretty much say that it’s not.

Barry:  No, sir, WIFI is particularly dangerous to children and it is particularly dangerous to pregnant women.  And there are several papers published on the frequencies to do with WIFI or WIFI enabled frequencies, as this is, the first is that it can induce the autoimmune system of the brain to go into action which can actually cause Graves disease which is a neurological state with is detrimental to children.  The other pulse frequencies related to microwave radiation are feelings where you cannot relax, feeling of being unhappy, and if you are super sensitive to it, it can cause problems with anger and manic behavior and even problems with movement and loss of appetite and things like and these are published, these are well published frequencies or pulse frequencies modulation frequencies that parents are already reported in schools with WIFI.

OYM:  It’s something that I try to address in my son’s school regarding the dangers of WIFI but you get a blank look.  They just don’t seem to understand because if it has been approved by government they assume that everything is okay.

Barry:  Well, actually, they’re wrong.  It has not been approved by government.  In fact, the European Parliament actually wrote to ban WIFI from schools.  For legal reasons, it had to be changed to (read) wired system is preferred, but the meaning is the same and many of the leading scientists and professors in many countries have said why WIFI must not be allowed near children.  And the problem we have with schools is two-fold.  The first is that when Ofsted, and again this isn’t from me, this is from a professor, when I gave a lecture at a university, and a professor said,  she said, I’ll tell you what the problem is, Barry.  When the government inspectors come into schools they have to tick boxes like Ofsted and schools are terrified of not having that sentence that tells that this is an advanced technologically developed school with excellence and you don’t get ticks in boxes.  Now if you don’t have WIFI and all of these interactive things that you can touch, you don’t get ticks in boxes, and this is one of the things that schools are afraid of.  And the other thing of course is the legality of whoever signs the papers, and it is usually the chair of governors or the principal, because WIFI actually has no safety certificate and there is no insurance.   So what they’re now facing, and what they are afraid of and why they refer back to the government is because they can face super law suits over the injuries to children.  And I know two, one of which where the signatory of a document is being sued for 5.2 million pounds and the other where eighteen families are suing.  And when it comes to children and you will probably find the insurance companies on the advice of Lloyd’s put a little exclusion clause in you will find that if there is no insurance then it is your house, your land, your car that people will go for.  They are actually in a Catch-22 and they’ve painted themselves into a corner.

OYM:  It’s incredible.  Obviously we have heard of Agenda 21 which has been rolled out in so many countries now.  The one thing that Deborah is talking about regarding technology that she’d come across on the White House website is the fact that they want to use technology as a mesh network and they can trace and track everything with this mesh network.  Is that something that you’ve come across.

Barry:  Oh, yes.  It’s no secret. The U.S. has a super computer, it’s something like a million billion computations a second.  It can store and log every single conversation used on WIFI and cell phones and every other microwave device in the world and they can keep that and store that.  And I think they actually said that they are doing that not too long ago.  Information for governments is power.  It can be used in many ways.  It can be used to help people, but it can also be used to quiet people down and be used for blackmail.  So if everything that you ever say, do or touch is now being stored on computers by governments, they are not storing it for their health.  They are storing it for their own use for whatever they want to do with it.

OYM:  We have the whistleblower Edward Snowden who is coming out about the NSA and what they’re doing.

Barry:  Absolutely.  And when you mesh a whole block and a whole street, there is nothing you can do, say, go, that cannot be logged.  Your movements and they can even know and see you when you go to the toilet, if they want, when you take a bath, they can see and know what you say all day.  It is absolute total observation of populations.

OYM:  Is there anything we can do to reduce them being able to do that?

Barry:  The problem is that the people who have the power to do this, putting it simply, you are up against first the most powerful industry on the planet.  It has the government sand secret services in bed with it, along with the electricity generating boards and the pharmaceutical industry so you are up against the biggest people on the planet.  Whether the ordinary person can do something about it, I am hoping so because, and the problem isn’t just the island and the United States, it is worldwide.  I am not boasting, sir, and I make no money from this, my paper is free, and is all peer reviewed published references it has already been requested by over a quarter of a million people worldwide who have this same concern.  So we may have some very powerful people suddenly turning this around and saying we will do this and this but not this and this.  So I’m hoping the world comes to its senses once this paper comes out.

OYM:  That’s the next thing we’re going to talk about.  One of the things we are hoping to do, and we are happy to do this for you, when you send us a copy of your paper to OYM, we will digitize it and we will make it available on the OYM website for people to download and to read.

Barry:  In April I was asked to be a speaker at the annual conference of the Irish Doctors Association and they are renowned worldwide for being very clever and they have links all over the world and the basis of this paper, the effect of WIFI on girls from the age of five to when they’re pregnant women.  I spoke and answered questions and then they asked me to answer questions all day and they really went into this and one of the doctors said that you really must put this into a document.  It is free of charge and available to anybody in the world.  I’m hoping it is good enough to be used in a legal case anywhere in the world.

OYM:  We need to stop this rollout of WIFI all over the world, and smart meters and now they are going to be metering the water.

Barry:  Without insulting your intelligence or the intelligence of your doctors, I always write my research  papers so that they can be understood by an eleven-year-old child.  So any of the young adults listening to you, if they think they will never understand a research paper, this one they will, and I’ve used a graphic artist to do a picture as well to explain if there are words you don’t understand they will be in a drawing, but it should be understandable by an eleven-year -old who doesn’t have a science background.

You can invite me back onto your program, sir, with anyone from anywhere in the world and I will happily be a guest and answer any questions.

OYM:  Barry has been on the show twice before and you can download the shows on podcast.  This is just a quick interview on the information that Deborah Tavares sent over.